Less Developments in Side Streets: 17% will do it.

Following on from yesterday’s proof that we don’t need high density apartments in DD08 and side streets, lets consider today, how little development is needed in side streets at all.

Less than 17% more of the 6080 DD08 sites, do actually need to be developed as town houses to achieve the growth Manningham council has planned up to 2030…


Remember Town houses maintain existing local character, can fit on-site parking, spread the traffic load around the area. Don’t shadow anything like a 3 storey apartment, and look a whole lot better.

So this is how it works out.

  1. We know that there are a number of multi-storey apartments in Doncaster Hill precinct, so we can include them as helping achieve the growth target.
  2. We know there are a number of “smaller” two & three storey apartments on main roads like Doncaster Rd, so we can include them.
  3. We know the Growth target set by council planning for 2030 is 4,577 new residences.
  4. So we take 1 & 2 above, away from 3, and are left with the number of homes we need to fit into the side streets.
  5. And as the Council want the growth focused on the Hill and DD08 zones, lets see how many DD08 homes need to be knocked down and replaced by Townhouses before 2030.

Here is how we worked it out:

From Manningham councils web site : Residential development – Doncaster Hill we find the total existing plans. (We excluded the unnamed forecasted “Other Future 2,300” & included the Bunnings site with 600 apartments as stated by council last week.) There are probably many others we don’t know about, and some will have been revised, but it’s something close to work with.

list of forecast land developments and infill assumptions:

  • 2006-8 dwelling additions are based on occupation and construction certificates. From 2008 onwards:
  • Sovereign Point Apartments E & F – 16 dwellings (2009)
  • Oak Hill Apartments – 81 dwellings (2010)
  • Elgar Road apartments – 110 dwellings (2010)
  • 8-12 Hepburn Road – 53 dwellings (2012)
  • Mobil site – 659-667 Doncaster Road – 77 dwellings (2012) replaced by Bunnings below
  • Doncaster Road Apartments (632-640 Doncaster Rd) – 124 dwellings (2012)
  • 600 Doncaster Road – 100 dwellings (2013)
  • Shoppingtown Hotel – 240 dwellings (2013, 2018)
  • 2 Elgar Court – 95 dwellings (2014)
  • Berkeley Street – 110 dwellings (2014-2015)
  • 810 Elgar Road – 15 dwellings (2015)
  • Doncaster Road Multi Level Apartment Building (537 Doncaster Rd)- 15 dwellings (2015)
  • Montage – 128 dwellings (2015)
  • Church Site – 110 dwellings (2016)
  • 710 Doncaster Road – 110 dwellings (2016)
  • 20-24 Hepburn Road – 100 dwellings (2017)
  • Other future apartment projects – 2,385 dwellings (2017+)
  • Bunnings site 659-667 Doncaster Road ( 7eleven) – 600 dwellings.

So lets do the Maths..

A. Total Existing planned dwellings – listed above 2007
B. Total dwellings needed for planned growth 4577
C. Remaining dwellings needed (=B-A) 2570
D. Site Density when developed as Town houses(2-3 residences per original block) 250%
E.   Extra sites needed, to build on for all remaining Dev. needs (=C/D) 1028
F. Total DD08 sites in 2005, before plans above. 6080
Therefore the number of DD08 sites that need to be developed as town houses, to accommodate all the Growth needed is (=E/F) 17%  (1 in 5)

 That means if 17% of the total DD08 zoned homes, were developed into Town Houses, over the next 19 years (2030,) then Manninghams’ growth needs would be met – completely.

That’s another fallacy gone about the need for high density apartments in Doncaster area. Next we might tackle “Affordability” the idea that these apartments are cheap family entry level homes. Have a look yourself at the real estate pages, these apartments are selling for $600K to $900K and more. Hard to understand when the houses being knocked down to build them on are selling for under $700K, on a full site block, with parking, with a garden, with local character.


  1. LJ says:

    Residents need to realise that our fight should not necessarily be with councillors – they can easily be voted out if residents’ concerns are not listened to. The Manningham Planning Department is the main stumbling block as they do not want to make any alterations to the plans for higher density in the Doncaster Hill area and the wider Manningham municipality.

    1. Jimmy says:

      If you look at the Council meetings minutes of the last 15 years, it is very evident that a number of former and current Councillors support this type of development. In fact, i recall maybe one Councillor since maybe 1990 who has lived/lives in the Doncaster Hill area. Either way, a fair number of past and present Koonuing councillors apart from Welsh (who actually supports residnets concern’s in this instance) live in East Doncaster, or on the outer areas of Doncaster such as near the freeway or Ruffey Park. Well, as i say, inspect their voting patterns; that’s NIMBYism.

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